# About the ACCESS-NRI COSIMA 2025 training program

**URL:** <https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145>\
**Category:** 2025 training program\
**Tags:** cosima, workshop\
**Created:** [11 February 2025 04:49 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145 "2025-02-11T04:49:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [11 February 2025 04:49 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/1 "2025-02-11T04:49:26Z")

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This [category](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/c/cosima/cosima-access-nri-training-2025/219) contains some of the training materials from 2025 training sessions on ACCESS-NRI and COSIMA workflows

# Scope

The program is intended to help train and support new/experienced Australian users to do better ocean science.

## [Program is here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LPvdAVrCyBYPrLgst4VY36mmIaK_r1PPsNSJnmetnP0/edit?usp=sharing).

# When?

Every second Friday 11:00am on [zoom](https://anu.zoom.us/j/88150486976?pwd=GjNteS8wQbku4EygvvKp4QQR4ySZn8.1), commencing 21/02/2025.

# Help please!

The program will be all the richer with community input, and maybe a starting point for new collaborations… **Perhaps some of you have an interest in demonstrating or showing off one of your favorite tools, models or analysis?**

Examples might include: WW3, panantarctic configs, MOM6 idealised modelling, Oceananigans, regional modelling, evaluation to observations, novel OM2 diagnostics, running isomip+ mom6 etc… **The only criteria is that you think it’s of value to the community.**

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [4 December 2024 23:57 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/2 "2024-12-04T23:57:56Z")

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Based on user [feedback for more training](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/access-nri-ocean-modelling-survey-steering-future-development-for-users/3853), we’re currently in the process of designing a **new user training program**. We _need your input!_

_[A_ draft training program is here]( [2025\_ACCESS-NRI\_COSIMA training schedule.xlsx](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LPvdAVrCyBYPrLgst4VY36mmIaK_r1PPsNSJnmetnP0/edit?usp=sharing)).

**We’re conducting a user poll to see if there are specific sessions of interest**. Please answer the following question:

> What skills and tools would you like to see covered in an ACCESS-NRI COSIMA training program?

Enter your [answer here](https://app.sli.do/event/4SjZfMwrUDsmwDK3JnqQ7h) by 10am tomorrow please.

This program will be much richer with community input! We are especially interested to hear from community members that would be able to help facilitate a session, if this is the case, please put your “name; email address” in your suggestion, e.g., "Running and understanding key diagnostics in WOMBAT-lite (Pearse Buchanan; Pearse.Buchanan@csiro.au). Similarly, help is also appreciated for existing proposed sessions, please contact Chris Bull (chris.bull@anu.edu.au) if you’d like to help out.

At the next COSIMA meeting (12/12) we’ll poll on the suggested sessions to finalise the program. **Please come along on Thursday if you’d like to participate in the program, available sessions will be based on interest.**

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**Author:** ![john\_reilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/john_reilly/32/237_2.png) [@john\_reilly](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/john_reilly)\
**Post date:** [12 December 2024 00:38 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/3 "2024-12-12T00:38:28Z")

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Chris’ Slido Poll from COSIMA Meeting:

> **[Join Slido: Enter #code to vote and ask questions](https://app.sli.do/event/b9phLw4TMQjH4Za1SEry85/live/polls)**
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> Participate in a live poll, quiz or Q&A. No login required.

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [12 December 2024 01:52 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/4 "2024-12-12T01:52:43Z")

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To finalise the main program, **please complete [the following poll by December 19th](https://app.sli.do/event/b9phLw4TMQjH4Za1SEry85/embed/polls/209fc230-efcf-4827-b1a0-34942bffc065).**

Background slides from COSIMA meeting today:  
[2024.12.05\_ACCESS-NRI COSIMA training program.pptx](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/uploads/short-url/orIuGbqGTMlGn0Xxq26fvBbqPIw.pptx) (1.9 MB)

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [29 January 2025 23:37 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/5 "2025-01-29T23:37:14Z")

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Survey results for which sessions are popular (Dec 12)…

 ![slido-which-of-the-following-sessions-would-you-attend](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/access1/original/2X/4/4f39a075ad19f22aadafbcb48fb281d985706288.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![lidefi87](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/lidefi87/32/91_2.png) [@lidefi87](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/lidefi87)\
**Post date:** [16 April 2025 00:49 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/6 "2025-04-16T00:49:04Z")

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Hi there! I was hoping to make a suggestion for the training program: metadata, what and how to record it, and any established conventions/guidelines that we should be following. I find that metadata records are not consistent across models, so I’m still trying to figure out what is good practice.

I’ve been going through ARDC docs on this topic: [Data Provenance | Australian Research Data Commons | ARDC](https://ardc.edu.au/resource/data-provenance/), but there is a lot of information and it’d be nice to have a crash course about this.

The reason for my suggestion is because I am producing a large number of files after running a marine ecosystem model and ideally I would like to include information that make it easier of potential users to understand these outputs.

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**Author:** ![hrsdawson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/hrsdawson/32/218_2.png) [@hrsdawson](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/hrsdawson)\
**Post date:** [28 April 2025 23:29 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/7 "2025-04-28T23:29:09Z")

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Are the training programs recorded? I’d like to attend the one this Friday but will be away.

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [29 April 2025 04:21 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/8 "2025-04-29T04:21:10Z")

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Thanks for your interest @hrsdawson, we’ve recorded some of them when it has been requested and the presenter doesn’t mind. The recording system doesn’t currently work with breakout rooms so it also depends on the format of the training.

Given your interest, I’ll ask the presenter if they are open to it being recorded.

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [29 April 2025 22:29 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/9 "2025-04-29T22:29:00Z")

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@hrsdawson the session this Friday will be recorded.

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [5 May 2025 04:29 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/10 "2025-05-05T04:29:09Z")

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Hi @lidefi87

> [@lidefi87](#):
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> Hi there! I was hoping to make a suggestion for the training program: metadata, what and how to record it, and any established conventions/guidelines that we should be following. I find that metadata records are not consistent across models, so I’m still trying to figure out what is good practice.
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> I’ve been going through ARDC docs on this topic: [Data Provenance | Australian Research Data Commons | ARDC](https://ardc.edu.au/resource/data-provenance/), but there is a lot of information and it’d be nice to have a crash course about this.
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> The reason for my suggestion is because I am producing a large number of files after running a marine ecosystem model and ideally I would like to include information that make it easier of potential users to understand these outputs.

Thanks very much for your suggested topic! That is indeed a tricky space to navigate and I don’t think anyone in the ocean team would be able to present on as such. Relatedly, I’m not sure this training program is the right place for this kind of training… Of course, anyone from the community is welcome to present what they think will be of interest but from what you’ve written it sounds like it might appeal to a broader audience?

I’m pinging @paigem @rbeucher @CharlesTurner @ClareCR and @kdruken as they might have some pointers or an interest in this kind of training for the upcoming annual workshop. [Feel free to cast a vote here too](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/2025-access-training-day-what-should-we-offer/4259).

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**Author:** ![CharlesTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/charlesturner/32/2518_2.png) [@CharlesTurner](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/CharlesTurner)\
**Post date:** [5 May 2025 04:47 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/11 "2025-05-05T04:47:22Z")

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Strongly agree that a training session on metadata is a good idea. I’ve caused myself far too many issues recording inadequate metadata over the years.

From my personal perspective, the real difficulty with metadata is often poor tooling for generating it automatically - when adding metadata becomes a chore, it’s often the first thing to slip in the interests of saving time. Perhaps we could direct some effort towards building tooling to scaffold metadata - I suspect the ROI would be substantial.

For the use case @lidefi87 mentions, something like an autogenerated intake catalog wouldn’t hurt as a start - indexing is always a good place to begin with creating metadata. I don’t know whether these marine ecosystem models would require substantially different building processes to what we currently have - is a marine ecosystem model another name for an ocean biogeochemistry model or is it a completely different kettle of fish (pun intended)?

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**Author:** ![lidefi87](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/lidefi87/32/91_2.png) [@lidefi87](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/lidefi87)\
**Post date:** [5 May 2025 08:01 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/12 "2025-05-05T08:01:25Z")

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The marine ecosystem models (MEMs) I work with are different to BGC models. The aim of MEMs is to estimate changes in biomass of marine organisms and often use outputs from ocean and BGC models as forcings.

Outputs from other MEMs do not include a great deal of metadata and wanted to see what other disciplines did. Since ocean/BGC models appear to be better documented, I was hoping to get more advice from this community so I could adapt it to my needs.

I think I’m getting a better idea of what could be useful to include in the metadata after going through documentation about best practices. But I still think it would be a great topic to cover since anyone wanting to share data would likely benefit from this.

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**Author:** ![lidefi87](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/lidefi87/32/91_2.png) [@lidefi87](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/lidefi87)\
**Post date:** [18 July 2025 00:14 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/13 "2025-07-18T00:14:13Z")

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I thought I’d check if training is happening today (July 18). There is an entry in the spreadsheet, but no title for the training session.

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**Author:** ![cbull](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/cbull/32/2203_2.png) [@cbull](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/cbull)\
**Post date:** [18 July 2025 00:44 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/about-the-access-nri-cosima-2025-training-program/4145/14 "2025-07-18T00:44:43Z")

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Hi @lidefi87,

Thanks for highlighting this. There is _not_ any training on this week, sorry that has fallen through the cracks. I know @Thomas-Moore has been travelling but I’ll get in touch with him.

In general, we try to advertise when the training is on, a few days ahead of time on the [cosima announce thread here](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/cosima-working-group-announce/238/150).
