# ESM working group: Meeting notes 2023 (Archived)

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**Author:** ![Aidan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/aidan/32/42_2.png) [@Aidan](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/Aidan)\
**Post date:** [23 November 2023 03:01 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/esm-working-group-meeting-notes-2023-archived/1818/13 "2023-11-23T03:01:19Z")

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Date: 23/11/2023

Participants: 11

Chair: @LaurieM

## Admin

- Plan to have one just more meeting this year (Dec 7th) and no meetings in January. First meeting of 2023 will be February 1st.
- We have two volunteers for December and February (thanks @jemmajeffree and Francois Delage). Would be good to have at least one more speaker for mid February locked in before break.

## Shared experiments/ACCESS-NRI resources

- ESM WG project `lg87` has `/g/data` allocation of 50TB, same for `/scratch` and F&P WG transferred their compute allocation for this quarter, so there is 1.75MSU total.
- @eunpalim’s Triple La-Nina experiment: @griff and @lynzhou running this. Done 1 start date so far and used 130KSU/1TB so far. Will run 17 more.
- Any proposals for shared experiments for next quarter? See [guidelines for how to do this](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/esm-working-group-resource-allocation-guidelines/799). First meeting is in February, so not much time to organise to utilise resources.
- ACCESS-NRI Merit Allocations Guidelines: Release scheduled for today. Overview from @Aidan and discussion/questions.

## Science talk

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/access1/original/2X/b/bce7d1a3b27cf993b5df55b6e281705312f3628f.jpeg "Recording Hutchinson ESMWG Nov 23") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dYyELVwyo)

Works for Miocene, but still haven’t problems with orography. 7 orography variables in the UM restart file. Works with small changes, but trying to just change the areas where miocene changes leads to a model crash. Can’t find how this was originally generated.

Wrote a user story on the hive

> [@Set up ACCESS-ESM1.5 for Miocene land-sea mask](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/set-up-access-esm1-5-for-miocene-land-sea-mask/1558):
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> This is a work-in-progress guide to setting up ACCESS-ESM1.5 for the Mid-Miocene climate optimum (15 Ma). There are several aspects that are unfinished, but posting here now as it may be useful as a starting point. The scripts referred to here in [this github repository](https://github.com/dkhutch/access_esm_miocene/) and the accompanying files will be added to lg87 on Gadi in the near future. Some of the following is a clone of the README from the github repo, but some additional steps will be added for starting the experiments. Temporary loc…

all code available on github:

> **[GitHub - dkhutch/access\_esm\_miocene: Scripts to generate input and restart files for...](https://github.com/dkhutch/access_esm_miocene)**
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> Scripts to generate input and restart files for running ACCESS-ESM1.5 in a Miocene configuration

## What’s going on?

### ACCESS-CM2 updates

@dhb599 ACCESS-CM2 PPE Experiments using UKCP18 PPE Settings. ENSO not good. Quasi-biennial life-cycle of ENSO. 7 out of 10 metrics are good. Only ENSO stands out as bad. Run group of 8 PPEs. Large TOA Energy imbalance: 0.4 W/m2.

Chose best and ran more tests. Less than 0.2 W/m2 vs 0.4.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/access1/original/2X/f/f2726ddcf4a4b5965cb73b3fcde3eac004263f69.jpeg "Recording Bi ESMWG Nov 23") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcjd67hoadI)

### Experiment proposal

@gpontes [SSP585 with meltwater experiment proposal](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/access-esm1-5-ssp585-with-meltwater/1619)

### ACCESS Workshop

Videos from the workshop talks are [now available on the Forum](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/search?expanded=true&q=%23access-workshop-2023%20%23video%20) if you missed a talk, or want to watch again.

**This is a [wiki post](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-a-wiki-post/30801), if you want to update any of the details in these meeting notes, or to add your own recollection of what was discussed then [edit me](https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-a-wiki-post/30801) rather than replying.**

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