# NRI climate conda environments: information to users

**URL:** <https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** mailinglist, climate-conda-enviro\
**Created:** [28 November 2024 05:29 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939 "2024-11-28T05:29:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![clairecarouge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/clairecarouge/32/380_2.png) [@clairecarouge](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/clairecarouge)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2024 05:29 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/1 "2024-11-28T05:29:20Z")

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This topic will be used to send information to users of the climate conda environments supported by ACCESS-NRI. These environments were formerly known as “hh5 conda environments” and managed by the CLEX CMS team.

[**Join this forum**](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/docs?topic=884) if you are not yet a member to receive notifications when information is posted and ask for support about the environments.

[**Watch this topic to receive email notification**](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/forum-user-guide/95#notifications-20) of all messages posted on this topic.

**For any question or request about the NRI climate conda environments** , open [a new topic](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/new-topic?category=general&tags=help,climate-conda-enviro) and use the tags #help and #climate-conda-enviro.

**To find all posts about the NRI climate conda environments** , [search for the #climate-conda-enviro tag](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/search?q=%23climate-conda-enviro).

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**Author:** ![clairecarouge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/clairecarouge/32/380_2.png) [@clairecarouge](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/clairecarouge)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2024 04:07 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/2 "2024-11-29T04:07:20Z")

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**Message sent to hh5 users on 2/12/2024**

Dear hh5 conda users,

With the conclusion of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes (CLEX), support for the hh5 conda environments is transitioning to ACCESS-NRI.

What this means for users:

- No immediate change to how you use or access the current hh5 conda environments.

- Questions or requests for new packages in the hh5 conda environments should now be made through the [ACCESS-Hive Forum](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/docs?topic=884). However, please note that over the summer holiday period (with many staff on leave), new requests may be temporarily delayed.

- Continuity for users is a priority - ACCESS-NRI will ensure any interruptions to research or changes to workflows are minimal. One-off modifications (e.g., module settings) may be required in the future, but any such change will be communicated well in advance.

- More information and future updates can be found [on the Forum](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939).

These environments, developed and maintained by the CLEX CMS team, have proven very valuable to the community over the years. We applaud and thank the CMS team for implementing this very successful service and supporting it for the whole community.

Regards,

The ACCESS-NRI team

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**Author:** ![clairecarouge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/clairecarouge/32/380_2.png) [@clairecarouge](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/clairecarouge)\
**Post date:** [3 December 2024 03:46 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/3 "2024-12-03T03:46:07Z")

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**Author:** ![clairecarouge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/clairecarouge/32/380_2.png) [@clairecarouge](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/clairecarouge)\
**Post date:** [6 December 2024 02:54 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/4 "2024-12-06T02:54:03Z")

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A post was split to a new topic: [Management of hh5 data storage](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/management-of-hh5-data-storage/3971)

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**Author:** ![clairecarouge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/clairecarouge/32/380_2.png) [@clairecarouge](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/clairecarouge)\
**Post date:** [6 December 2024 02:51 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/5 "2024-12-06T02:51:14Z")

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**Author:** ![griff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/griff/32/332_2.png) [@griff](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/griff)\
**Post date:** [9 December 2024 03:30 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/6 "2024-12-09T03:30:33Z")

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> [@clairecarouge](#):
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> These environments, developed and maintained by the CLEX CMS team, have proven very valuable to the community over the years. We applaud and thank the CMS team for implementing this very successful service and supporting it for the whole community.

I whole heartedly agree - This has been invaluable for me personally - Very Much Appreciated - Griff

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**Author:** ![adele-morrison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/adele-morrison/32/90_2.png) [@adele-morrison](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/adele-morrison)\
**Post date:** [11 March 2025 00:59 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/7 "2025-03-11T00:59:46Z")

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I’m confused about which conda environment we’re supposed to be using (also many others in COSIMA are too). The post above directs us to keep using hh5 conda. But posts [here](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/access-rom3-setup-instructions/4107/79) and [here](https://github.com/COSIMA/om3-scripts/issues/50) suggest that the version of Intake in hh5 is old and at least when generating new datastores we should use xp65 conda.  
Is the recommendation to use xp65 for Intake datastore generation and then switch to hh5 for analysis?

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**Author:** ![rbeucher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/rbeucher/32/11_2.png) [@rbeucher](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/rbeucher)\
**Post date:** [11 March 2025 01:53 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/8 "2025-03-11T01:53:25Z")

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Hi @adele-morrison,

Thank you for reaching out. Let me clarify the situation.

As communicated last year, ACCESS-NRI will not be updating the `hh5` conda environments. However, to ensure that user workflows remain functional, the `hh5` environments have not been discontinued.

Any updates to the intake catalog or the `analysis3` software stack will only occur in the new `xp65` conda environments. While these environments have not yet been officially released, they are available for testing. The `xp65` environments cover approximately 90% of the packages that were previously available in `hh5`, so they should be suitable for most use cases.

I hope this clarifies things. Please feel free to reach out if you have any further questions or concerns.

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**Author:** ![adele-morrison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/adele-morrison/32/90_2.png) [@adele-morrison](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/adele-morrison)\
**Post date:** [11 March 2025 02:07 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/9 "2025-03-11T02:07:35Z")

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Thanks @rbeucher. So just to be clear: is the recommendation that everyone switches to xp65 **now**? Or should we keep using hh5 until there is an official release of xp65?

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**Author:** ![rbeucher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.access-hive.org.au/rbeucher/32/11_2.png) [@rbeucher](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/u/rbeucher)\
**Post date:** [11 March 2025 02:12 UTC](https://forum.access-hive.org.au/t/nri-climate-conda-environments-information-to-users/3939/10 "2025-03-11T02:12:04Z")

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The recommendation is to test xp65, especially if people want to use the new intake catalogues.
