ACCESS-OM3 model evaluation team minutes

ACCESS-OM3 evaluation paper discussion

  • Global OM3 setup
  • Define priorities and who will be working on each config

Agenda (1 hr) (Chaired by Paul Spence, Notes by @fabiobdias ):
Participant list
@PSpence @MATTENGLAND @hrsdawson @edoddridge @pearseb @adele-morrison @AlbertoMeucci Alexander Babanin @fabiobdias @helen @LaurieM @lgbennetts @NoahDay @sofarrell @wghuneke @JuliaN @AndyHoggANU @MartinDix @ezhilsabareesh8 @anton @minghangli @cbull @dougiesquire @claireyung

  1. Understand NRI perspective (discussion led by Andy/Chris) (5 mins + 5 mins question)

Slides:
2025.05.28_evalpaperdiscussion.pptx (2.7 MB)

  • NRI workload;
  • NRI working plan/priorities
    • global ocean-sea ice model
      • Focused on 25km development
    • Some overlap with regional ocean mode
      • Parameter tuning, optimisation, WOMBAT, waves
  • Next steps:
    • Logistical steps (grid gen., IC, input files etc) - well understood
    • Optimisation/tuning
  • Questions / issues arising:
    • Priority on 25km - need to develop coarser configuration first (driven in part by development needs for full ACCESS coupled model)
    • Climate model would be ideal world - but COSIMA community still needs stand-alone ocean-sea-ice models (e.g. where high res. is needed but would be prohibitive in coupled mode with associated ensemble needs due to intrinsic variability triggered by atmospheric coupling).
    • Ocean-Wave coupled with WW3 was not done before at resolution finer than 25km
  1. Understand COSIMA perspective (discussion led by Adele/Julia) (5 mins + 5 mins questions)
  • 19 people said 8-km is mission critical
  • Ice shelf cavities - top request feature
  • 46 published papers used 0.1deg, 10 papers used 0.25deg.
  • Having an awesome model to do science is what the community wants
    • There’s lots of steps to get there (WOMBAT, waves, ice shelves, etc)
    • Set up priorities (trade off between coupled model development benefits from 25km; vs. needs of COSIMA community for 1/10deg version. Stay with OM2?)
  1. Discuss options for model dev pathway (discussion led by Andrew/Andy) (5 mins + 5 questions)
  • NRI workplan: workflow at 25km is easier to apply to 8km now (while it is still fresh on ppl minds)
    • OM2 evaluation paper - had big effort in the optimisation
    • Runtime issues will only appear when running the 8km model
    • How to organise workplan between 25km and 8km development?

  • Keep an eye on open ocean polynyas around Antarctica on the 25km
  1. How will process of model evaluation work (e.g role of NRI/Cosima)? (discussion led Andrew/Ed) (5 mins + 5 mins questions)
  • Fundamental challenge in the technical work required to update the cosima recipes:
    • Cosima-cookbook to Catalog-intake
    • MOM5 to MOM6
  • Challenge on transit to OM3 since OM2 already exists (from ECRs)
  • COSIMA vs ACCESS-NRI takeover on the Model Evaluation paper
    • More of a scientific task than technical (push for COSIMA led)
  1. Hypothetical paper ideas (discussion led by Adele/Wilma) (5 mins + 5 questions)
  • CORE model evaluation

    • Exclusive OM3-25km
    • Technical report with doi reference
    • CM3 evaluation (including OM3-25km)
    • Resolution comparison (25km Vs 8km)
  • Exploiting technical advances

    • Fast tracers:OM3-25km with different flavors of WOMBAT (Pearse et al)
    • Ice shelf cavities: OM3-8km (Claire et al)
  • Different resolutions likely to affect primary productivity - an idea for a paper publication

  • Most citations made were to refer to the model configuration (technical aspect)

    • Less citations related to the scientific findings?

Some extra items discussed:

  • OM3-100km development?

  • current CM3 testing and MOM6-CICE-WW3 development is being done at 1deg

  • Useful to speed up WOMBAT/BGC development

  • Tuning b/w different resolutions

  • Unclear if the tuning needs to be redone at a different resolution

  • BGC parameters in WOMBAT definitely needed a re-tuning (given the large-scale physics changes between ESM1.5 and ESM1.6)

  1. Closing summary/action items (discussion led by Paul/Andy) (5 mins)
  • Need to define the priority for the first evaluation paper

Hi @cbull - thanks for bringing this together! I am interested and able to help with the polynya/ice production distribution validation side of OM3 if that’s needed.

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