One solution would be to stand up a new instance on another cloud tenant. Perhaps we could have a shared ansible setup so each institution can have their own server.
Itās one of the thing we would like to discuss at the NRI workshop, I would like for this to be part of a broader plan on all shared infrastructure as opposed to tackle them one by one.
Sounds good to me, does this fit into the existing discussions or should we set up a separate meeting?
Aidan
(Aidan Heerdegen, ACCESS-NRI Release Team Lead)
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Definitely keen to collaborate. We had (tentative) plans to host on a Nectar/ARDC VM, but made no progress on that to date.
I agree with @Paola-CMS that this is part of a broader discussion. My apology, I never did resuscitate the infrastructure meetings as their raison dāĆŖtre was taken away a bit by the NCI spack model building effort of Benās team.
We can revive those meetings though, if we think that is worthwhile.
Thereās no meeting setup at the workshop I donāt think thereās a session for the infrastructure, all CMS is going to be there, however not every day, definitely Dale and I will be there all week, so maybe Friday if thatās less busy? Iām not sure who exactly should be there from a NRI point of view
Aidan
(Aidan Heerdegen, ACCESS-NRI Release Team Lead)
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Thatās correct, but Iām sure we could carve out some time, and clearly visitors are the time constrained ones, so happy to do what works for you all.
I am taking a COSIMA training session at 11.30 on th 8th I believe, but apart from that I am free all Friday.
I canāt say that Iām a fan of either of those ideas. Iām trying to move CLEX more towards managed services and away from NCI at the same time. Letting people like us loose on blank VMs with sensitive data and public DNS entries is a recipe for getting said sensitive data stolen. Here is a particularly pertinent example: U.S. āNo Fly Listā Leaks After Being Left in an Unsecured Airline Server. Unfortunately I havenāt come across a managed service similar to grafana that doesnāt cost a lot. This is why, as @Paola-CMS says, we need a plan. Is there a plan for NRI to hire sysadmins and/or cybersec specialists? If so, blank VMs stood up with ansible start to look more viable. What about reducing the reliance on NCI? Looking beyond NCI offers opportunities for researchers to access more compute and storage resources, and the accessdev shutdown can be a catalyst for that.
Iām sad that the CLEX Accounting Dashboard is no longer working for the ANU projects (x77/g40). The note there says āThis dashboard is deprecated. ā¦some projects may be removed without notice.ā Iām wondering if we can come up with any solutions for this moving forward?
Iāll be at the workshop next week, if you would like to discuss this. We tried to find someone who would maintain this service and unfortunately there was no uptake, I think the NRI has their own grafana and so they were not interested. The current CLEX dashboard will close completely in December, unless we find someone who is interested in taking it over.